reducing file size

[eddie]

hello!
Ive seen a few of you have put up clips onto the web, can anyone give me some advice on this?
I have a 2.5 minute clip I want toput up, but the smallest I can make it is 60 Meg!!!!
Any advice on compressor? pixel size? data rates? and all the settings?
Ive tried many (using premier) including sorenson, but my file size remains too big to download.....

Any help MUCH appreciated.
Thanks

[Vertino]

Try using DivX

http://www.divx.com/

It uses MPEG4 technology - aka - the MP3 of Video.

As for resolution? obviously the bigger the better, but thats not realisic. So I'd first try VCD resolution (352*288) - if the filesize is still to big... then half that resolution!

DivX has a few options that you can tweak, so you should be able to get a reasonable filesize!


One last thing to consider is the webhosting... check how much bandwidth you're allowed to use - if you're taking the free option (ie. geocities, tripod) then they'll have limited daily bandwidth restrictions...


- Lee

[steven_craig]

sorenson 3 is what id recommend, get a copy of QuickTime 6 PRO and there are predefined export settings that will make it look good and download well... dont touch Media Cleaner with a ten foot barge pole, you have been warned

[eddie]

thanks for your answers.
for info I downloaded a free version of Real Systems Producer, basic version. This program can create a .rm (real media?) file from another (bigger) avi (or quicktime) file.
This seems to have done the trick (reduced a 60 MEG file to 4 MEG) although it obviously needs tweaking.

Thanks

[Xendar]

Dear Eddie,

Which version of Premiere are you using? If it's version 6 then you get Media Cleaner EZ with for exporting to a number of web streaming formats such as MPEG1, Quicktime etc.

If you've got Premiere 5.1 though it's more difficult to export different file types. There is stuff out there though, as you've discovered with the Real Media stuff. Although I don't rate Real Player and I don't think that .rm files look very good, plus REal Player seems pretty flaky to me. It might be worth thinking about using Windows Media files. I think they tend to look better and everybody has Media Player as it comes with Windows, not everyone has Real Player. Windows Media Encoder is free and can be downloaded from http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...ia/default.asp

Another alternative is to use MPEG1. A free MPEG encoder can be downloaded from www.tmpgenc.com


Regards

Mark Smith

[steven_craig]

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am i missing somthing here?

[eddie]

Hi There

Im trying to recreate the quality of:
http://www.smartgroups.co.uk/vault/5YLAC/mi-tease.rm

I obviously underestimated this, and I guess people have their favourites.
For info the best I have managed so far is using cinepack to create a 350 x 200 movie, (60 MEG) at 15 fps, and then running this through Real Systems Producer, to create an 8.8 MEG real media file.
It aint too bad, but there must be better ways.

MPEG4 kept hanging, and I havent yet figured out DIVX.

Ill keep interested people posted on this.

[machead]

what is the duration of your film?


I know I'm a Machead but I'd avoid Windows Media Player and Real, that is if you value your film. Best thing would be to export as a Mpeg-4. It is a compromise between quality and file size but. I go for a slightly larger file size but make sure the movie is streaming.

Best bet is to use Media cleaner, as mentioned above I use Cleaner 5 an advanced version of Media cleaner,in conjuction with Quicktime Pro 6, As far as I'm concened the best combination, and also both available on the PC.

[eddie]

thanks, Im actually doing this on a MAC [img]wink.gif[/img]
the film is only 2 1/5 minutes long, so I dont
understand why the files are so huge.
The best size compromise seems to be 350 x 200 and
perhaps mpeg-4 is the one to try.
Dont have media cleaner.
Thanks for the comments, I really appreciate it.

[machead]

How many colours are you doing this at, some codec's offer a reduction in colour info this can reduce file sizes dramatically also how's your audio compressed you don't want 6 mb of audio with 2.8 mb of visual. This is why Quicktime Pro is helpfull you can analys audio and visual content of a file